Violin Sizing

Measuring for a Violin

Measuring what size violin, viola, or cello you need is straight forward. If you have not been advised on the size you need, then this short guide should help you out.

The actual size between the instruments doesn’t look much, a ¼ violin being 47cm and the ½ only 4cm longer, but this can make a real difference to the player.

Playing on the wrong size instrument could force the player to have to stretch too far if the instrument is too large or be cramped if the instrument is too small. Either way, it’s going to make learning to play much harder!

If you are an adult/child learning to play then follow these simple measurements.

If you are still unsure after using this guide, please contact us. We are always happy to help.

Just under the next size up?

If you find your child is just under being the next size up, it is tempting to go for the large instrument.

Really, they should start with the smaller size and only move to the larger size when they are 100% ready. Playing an instrument even slightly to large may inhibit progress.

If you get your violin, but the teacher suggests a different size please let us know and we’ll arrange to change sizes.

Violin Size Arm Length Age (Guide Only)

1/16 Violin 35.5cm or 14in 3 to 5 Years Old

1/10 Violin 38cm or 15in 3 to 5 Years Old

1/8 Violin 42cm or 16in 3 to 5 Years Old

1/4 Violin 47cm or 18.5in 4 to 7 Years Old

1/2 Violin 51cm or 20in 6 to 10 Years Old

3/4 Violin 56cm or 22in 9 to 11 Years Old

4/4 Violin 58.5cm or 23in 11 Years Old +

Measuring Arm Length

Measuring Arm Length

How To Measure

Have the player extend their left arm completely straight (but not overextended) with a slight bend in the elbow.

  • Measurement 1 (neck to wrist) This indicates the most appropriate and comfortable size for the player.

  • Measurement 2 (neck to palm) This indicates the largest size the player could use.

 

Other Methods Of Measuring

If you already have a violin you can easily measure and check the size.

If the violin is put in the playing position, then the violin scroll should sit in the middle of the palm of the left hand and the fingers be able to curl around the scroll. The elbow and shoulder should not be stretching or extending to enable the fingers to curl around the scroll. You can also simply measure the back of the violin body using the measurements table below.

Scroll-Palm Measurement

Scroll-Palm Measurement

What Size Violin Do I Have? – Useful Violin Measurements

 

If you already have a violin, we have a useful list of measurements that will help you determine what sizes your instrument and bow are.


Violin Size Violin Back Length Violin Overall Length Bow Length

1/16 Violin 209mm or approx. 8” 36.8cm or 14.5” 42.5cm or 16.75”

1/10 Violin 230mm or approx. 9” 40.6cm or 16” 45cm or 17.5”

1/8 Violin 255mm or approx. 10” 43cm or 17” 48.9cm or 19.25”

1/4 Violin 280mm or approx. 11” 48.25cm or 19” 57.15cm or 22.5”

1/2 Violin 310mm or approx. 12.25” 52cm or 20.5” 62.2cm or 24.5”

3/4 Violin 335mm or approx. 13” 53.3cm or 21” 68.6cm or 27”

4/4 Full Violin 356mm or approx. 14” 60cm or 23.5” 75cm or 29.5”

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Viola Sizing

Measuring for a Viola

Measuring what size viola you need is straight forward. If you have not been advised on the size you need, then this short guide should help you out.

The actual size between the instruments isn’t much to look at, they only change by 1/2 an inch in the larger sizes and 1 inch in the smaller, but these small size differences can make a big difference to the player.

Playing on the wrong size instrument could force the player to have to stretch too far if the instrument is too large or be cramped if the instrument is too small. Either way, it’s going to make learning to play much harder!

If you are an adult/child learning to play, follow these simple measurements.

If you are still unsure after using this guide, please contact us. We are always happy to help.

Just under the next size up?

If you find your child is just under being the next size up, it is tempting to go for the large instrument. Really, they should start with the smaller size and only move to the larger size when they are 100% ready. Playing an instrument even slightly to large may inhibit progress.

If the teacher suggests a different size please let us know and we’ll arrange to change sizes.

Viola Size Arm Length Age (Guide Only)

12” Viola Up to 50.8cm or 20″ 6 to 7 Years Old

13” Viola Up to 55.9cm or 22″ 7 to 9 Years Old

14” Viola Up to 58cm or 23″ 9 to 12 Years Old

15” Viola Up to 62.2cm or 24.5″ 10 to 12 Years Old

15.5” Viola Up to 64cm or 25.25″ Average Adult

16” Viola Up to 66cm or 26″ Larger Adult

16.5″ Viola Up to 66cm or 26″ Larger Adult (preference)

Measuring Arm Length

Measuring Arm Length

How To Measure

Have the player extend their left arm completely straight (but not overextended) with no bend in the elbow or wrists.

  • Measurement 1 (neck to wrist) This indicates the most appropriate and comfortable size for the player.

  • Measurement 2 (neck to palm) This indicates the largest size the player could use.


Other Methods Of Measuring

If you already have a viola you can easily measure and check the size.

If the viola is put in the playing position, then the viola scroll should sit in the middle of the palm of the left hand and the fingers be able to curl around the scroll. The elbow and shoulder should not be stretching or extending to enable the fingers to curl around the scroll.

Scroll/Palm Measurement

Scroll/Palm Measurement

Unlike violins or cellos, full size violas can come in a variety of sizes anywhere from a 15” body length to an 18” body length. Just because you may be tall does not necessarily mean a larger viola is for you. And just because you may be a bit short does not necessarily mean a small viola is for you. The current trend for adult size violas today is more towards a smaller size. Even though larger violas give a fatter and generally bigger sound, these large instruments are not easy to play and might cause physical problems with a player. It is good and proper to try different size violas to determine what works best for you. If you need help with trying sizes of violas or have questions concerning sizing of violin, violas or cellos, please feel free to contact us. We are always ready to help!

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Cello Sizing

CELLO SIZING AND INFORMATION

 



Cello Sizing Guide – By Age

Cello Size Age

1/10 Cello 3 to 5 Years Old

1/8 Cello 5-6 Years Old

1/4 Cello 6-7 Years Old

1/2 Cello 8-10 Years Old

3/4 Cello 11-13 Years Old

4/4 Full Cello 14+ Years Old

 

Age is a simple and easy method of measuring for a cello. It is also fairly accurate and can be used on its own.

This table shows the different age groups and which cello they would need.

However, it is worth taking note of arm length and height below just to double check.





Cello Sizing Guide by Height

An adult or child can be measured for a cello size by using their height as a guide. This chart shows the approximate size cello for the height of the player.

Cello Size Height

1/10 Cello 3′ / 91 cm and under

1/8 Cello 3′ to 3’6″ / 91cm to 110cm

1/4 Cello 3’6″ to 4′ / 110cm to 123cm

1/2 Cello 4′ to 4’6″ / 123cm to 140cm

3/4 Cello 4’6″ to 5′ / 140cm to 152cm

4/4 Full Cello 5’+/ 152cm+



Measuring Arm Length for Cello

An adult or child can be measured for a cello size by using their arm length as a guide. This chart shows the approximate size cello for the arm length of the player.

Have the player extend their left arm completely straight (but not overextended) with no bend in the elbow or wrists.

  • Measurement 1 (neck to wrist) This indicates the most appropriate and comfortable size for the player.

  • Measurement 2 (neck to palm) This indicates the largest size the player could use.

Cello Size Arm Length

1/10 Cello 16″/ 41 cm and under

1/8 Cello 16″ to 18″/ 41cm to 46cm

1/4 Cello 18″ to 20″/ 46cm to 51cm

1/2 Cello 20″ to 22″/ 51cm to 56cm

3/4 Cello 22″ to 24″/ 56cm to 61cm

4/4 Full Cello 24″+ / 61cm+





Measuring Finger Span for Cello

An adult or child can be measured for a cello size by using their finger span as a guide. This chart shows the approximate size cello for the finger span of the player.

Cello Sizing Guide – Finger Span

Cello Size Finger Span

1/10 Cello 2.5″ to 3″

1/8 Cello 3″

1/4 Cello 3″ to 4″

1/2 Cello 4″ to 5″

3/4 Cello 5″ to 6″

4/4 Full Cello 6″+

How To Measure Finger Span

Exactly as the diagram, with splayed fingers in a comfortable position.

A greater or wider finger span just means it will be easier for the cello player to reach the finger positions for the notes. Generally, bigger hands means ease of playing!

 
Sizing by Age

Sizing by Age

 
Sizing by Height

Sizing by Height

 
Sizing by Arm Length

Sizing by Arm Length

 
 
Finger Span or Spread Measurement for Cello

Finger Span or Spread Measurement for Cello



Suzuki Cello Sizes

Cello Size Age

1/10 Cello 3 to 4 Years Old With the Suzuki method, cello sizing is

1/8 Cello 4-5 Years Old  slightly different.

1/4 Cello 5-6 Years Old The smaller sizes are a size down,

1/2 Cello 6 – 8 Years Old until you get past 1/2 size then the

3/4 Cello 1-13 Years Old cello sizing falls in line with

4/4 Full Cello 14+ Years Old European/Chinese sizes.


 Some Useful Cello Measurements

The table below outlines some Useful Cello Measurements. Some instruments may be .25” to .5” longer or shorter depending on the manufacture. Bows can also vary a little in length as well, but not much.

Cello Size Back Length Total Length Maximum Width Bow Length

1/10 Cello 17.75″ 29.5″ 9.75″ 17.5″

1/8 Cello 20″ 33.5″ 11.75″ 20.75″

1/4 Cello 23″ 38.5″ 13.5″ 23.75″

1/2 Cello 26″ 42″ 15″ 25.5″

3/4 Cello 27.25″ 45″ 16″ 27″

4/4 Full Cello 29” to 30″ 48″ 17.75″ 28″


 Cello Sizes – The difference between countries and their sizing

With commercial instruments, the actual sizes of cellos and string lengths can be different depending on their country of manufacture, or simply the cello maker. This doesn’t really help when you are trying to measure a cello to determine its size!

There are also no written rules for the differences between the manufacturing countries, but (roughly) German cellos often are the proper size, Romanian & Hungarian often come up an inch or so small. Chinese cellos can be exact, or a little over/under. Korean cellos are similar to Chinese. Japanese instruments can be a bit small from sizes 3/4 down to 1/10.

This is only a guide, but may help if you are trying to determining what size cello you need. If you have a cello that doesn’t match the sizing given, then you work to the closest size you can, and it is rare to find any cellos exactly in between sizes!


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